How To Match Into Dermatology: an interview with a dermatology resident

Dermatology is one of the most competitive specialties in medicine. Today I sat down with Benny Wu who is a current dermatologyy resident at Broward Health Medical Center. He shared his journey to dermatology and some advice on how to match into derm.

 

Thanks for letting me pick your brain, Benny. Can you tell my readers a little bit about yourself?

It is an honor for me to share my path to Dermatology residency with your readers and followers. I am currently a PGY-2 Dermatology Resident at Broward Health Medical Center in sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Before medical school, I was a figure skater for thirteen years – competed on the national and international level. In 2005, I chose to end my competitive skating career due to recurring injuries and realized it was ‘time’ to move forward with life by pursuing my second passion: medicine and science. Unfortunately, during college, I did not juggle my college coursework and figure skating very well. I had an embarrassingly low G.P.A. from the University of California, Irvine and did terribly on my MCAT. The next pivotal moment that had a direct impact on my medical career came in 2007. A medical school formerly known as the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey School of Osteopathic Medicine, now called Rowan University School of Osteopathic Medicine (RowanSOM), offered a Master’s in Biomedical Sciences degree for students who performed poorly during college but remained interested in attending medical school. RowanSOM advised me that my chances of being accepted into their medical school would be greatly increased if I performed exceptionally well in the Master’s program and if I improved my MCAT score. I performed extremely well in the Master’s program and brought my MCAT score way up (I distinctly remembered in 2005, my Physical Science score was 5/15, but in 2008 my Physical Science score went up to 10/15). Luckily, I was accepted into RowanSOM’s D.O. program in 2008. During the Master’s program and pre-clinical years I fell in love with immunology and became invested in how the body worked from the cellular and molecular level. Because of my fascination with immunology and medical research RowanSOM invited me to complete the D.O./Ph.D. combined program in 2011. Outside of medicine, I enjoy staying physically active (running and cycling) and cooking. One of my therapeutic outlets is cooking with fresh ingredients accompanied by a glass (or several glasses) of wine!

 

What motivated you to pursue dermatology?

Answering the following two questions can best explain my motivation for pursuing Dermatology

(1) What interests me in Dermatology – Dermatology requires a STRONG background and fund of knowledge in Internal Medicine and its subspecialties (Infectious Disease, Rheumatology, Nephrology, Pulmonology). Response to treatment is readily appreciated and is not heavily dependent on laboratory findings. One example I share with medical students is this – imagine being able to make a clinical diagnosis and assess response to treatment independent of lab findings – of course, more often than not, a confirmatory diagnosis will require a skin biopsy (side note: there are lots of procedures in Dermatology, too!). On the other hand, as much as we would like to refute this way of thinking, the importance of outward appearance in our society, and how it impacts one’s sense of self-worth, cannot be ignored or disregarded – just ask any severe nodulocystic acne patient how he feels after a full course of Accutane – it really is life-changing!

(2) What problems do I think Dermatology faces – I emphasize the difficulties because issues in any specialty can serve as motivating factors for medical students and young attendings. In Dermatology, the pathophysiology of many skin conditions remain unclear or unknown – there is a lot of opportunities for both basic science and clinical research in Dermatology. However, the more pressing concern is the dwindling interest in complex medical Dermatology – this may be due to decreased reimbursements from insurance carriers – but I see this unique problem as an opportunity for Dermatologists-in-training to start new Dermatology fellowship programs, such as Dermatology Hospitalists. For example, severe pemphigus patients admitted for rituximab infusion – this is classically a Dermatology-driven problem that can be managed by the primary Dermatology service.

 

Something that impressed me about you is that how persistent you were in pursuing your desired specialty. You didn’t match into dermatology…twice. But you persisted and landed a residency position in your dream job. What did the experiences of not matching into dermatology teach you?

Not matching into Dermatology taught me the importance of focusing on my modifiable weaknesses.

After failing to match again during my intern year at Drexel, I had to ask myself two questions: (i) is Dermatology the only specialty for me? (ii) if so, what can I do to maximize my chances the third time around?

Facts are facts. I am a D.O. with average USMLE scores for Dermatology (these are not modifiable). However, my lack of publication and research experience in Dermatology was modifiable. Thus, I made a promise to myself that I would give myself one last chance – reapply to Dermatology – but this time as a Northwestern Dermatology Clinical Research Fellow.

Also, I learned how much ‘grit’ I have. Dr. Angela Duckworth’s book, “Grit: the power of passion and perseverance” discussed the importance of being ‘gritty’ especially when dealing with failures or disappointments. If you have not read this book, I urge every one of your followers to read it, especially before the interview season begins – I believe in the two equations outlined by Dr. Duckworth: talent x effort = skill; skill x effort = achievement; TALENT counts ONCE while EFFORT counts TWICE.

 

Why do you think you didn’t match multiple times?

I failed to match numerous times because of the following reasons:

  1. Did not initially consider D.O. Dermatology programs
  2. Did not apply broadly (limited myself geographically).
  3. My degree, D.O. – Dermatology is a competitive specialty even for U.S. M.D. graduates.
  4. Average to below-average USMLE Step 1 score (238) for matched applicants – as a D.O., a spectacular Step 1 score (>250) would have helped – but not a guarantee by any means.
  5. CV did not differ much between the first and second time applying.

What did you do differently the second time to improve your chances of matching? Why do you think you failed to match a second time?

I did not do anything differently the second time around – as you know, we were co-interns at the time and had limited time to add significant publications or research experiences to my CV. The only addition to my CV in the 2017 cycle was one publication – a review article on drug-induced pyoderma gangrenosum.

 

So you finished your required preliminary year in internal medicine and you are offered the opportunity to stay and complete a categorical three-year residency in internal medicine. Why didn’t you stay?

Do you want a fluffy answer or the real answer? ☺ I did not stay because Dermatology remained one of the few medical specialties that I could see myself doing long-term. However, I loved infectious disease as well. Like I said before, there was one modifiable ‘weakness’ in my application – Dermatology research experience. Near the end of intern year, I was offered a Dermatology Clinical Research Fellow position at Northwestern University, Feinberg School of Medicine. Privately, I told myself that if I did not match the third time around, I would complete Categorical-Medicine residency and possibly pursue Infectious Disease.

 

What did you do professionally after your preliminary year to improve your application while you re-applied for the third time?

Right after the Medicine-Preliminary year, I moved to Chicago and completed a Dermatology Clinical Research Fellowship at Northwestern University. Simultaneously, I entered the 2018 ERAS and NRMP and applied with new recommendation letter writers (2 from Northwestern Dermatology Faculty, 1 from University of Pennsylvania Dermatology Faculty, 1 from Drexel/Hahnemann University Hospital Medicine Residency PD) and 1 new publication (ichthyosis, X-linked) with the Northwestern Dermatology Chair, Dr. Amy Paller (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28846233).

 

Thankfully you matched. What do you think you would have done if you didn’t match for a third time?

If I did not match, after three attempts, I would have done the following in sequential order:

  1. Try to secure an unfilled position through the SOAP.
  2. Apply to the few programs that secured extra funding for more spots or received ACGME-approval to increase program size after the NRMP Match quota deadline. Because Dermatology is a relatively small community, one advantage of doing a research fellowship at a major academic institution, such as Northwestern, is that PDs will advertise open positions on a listserv available to only Association of Professors of Dermatology Members (Dermatology PDs). Northwestern forwarded open positions to their research fellows since 2 out of 5 research fellows did not match.
  3. If number 1 and 2 don’t work in my favor, then I would seek out available PGY-2 Medicine Categorical positions, with the hope of specializing in Infectious Disease later down the road.

How many dermatology programs did you apply to each year? How many did you rank?

– In 2016, I applied to ~50 Dermatology Programs and 18 Medicine-Preliminary Programs. Ranked 5 Dermatology Programs (NRMP).

– In 2017, I applied to ~90 Dermatology Programs (including both Advanced ‘A’ and Physician-only ‘R’ positions). Ranked 2 Dermatology Programs (NRMP).

– In 2018, I applied to 95 Dermatology Programs (15 AOA-accredited “D.O.” programs and 80 Dermatology Programs – including both ‘A’ and ‘R’ positions). Ranked 2 AOA-accredited Dermatology Programs (NMS Match). Ranked 6 Dermatology Programs (NRMP)

 

What advice do you have for medical students who want to pursue dermatology?

– Read, read, and read more: highly recommend Lookingbill and Marks Dermatology textbook – this is a basic Dermatology textbook – very user-friendly.

– Approach to reading primary research articles: learn how to interpret and formulate questions as you read research articles – (i) is the study design robust – assess strengths and weaknesses (ii) any bias (iii) does it directly address the hypothesis – keep in mind that negative papers can still be valuable (iv) author financial relationship disclosure – is there a conflict of interest? Learning these skills early on will help you tremendously at audition rotations – this will quickly set you apart from other applicants – always remain inquisitive.

– Align yourself with a Dermatology mentor as soon as possible: if your school does not have a home Dermatology Department then search for a local Dermatology Society (for example, Chicago Dermatological Society [CDS] and PhillyDerm in Philadelphia, PA).

– No need to submit to only Dermatology journals: if you see a compelling case in your non-Dermatology clerkships that is Dermatology-relevant (for example, VZV reactivation in an immunocompromised patient) submit the case as a Continuing Medical Education (CME) quiz to a Family Medicine or Internal Medicine journal.

– Ask yourself these question: “is Dermatology the only specialty I see myself doing?” Remember, Dermatology has significant overlap with Rheumatology, Infectious Disease, and Family Medicine/Primary Care. By not limiting your publications to Dermatology journals, should you decide to apply to Family Medicine or Internal Medicine down the road, it will appear less likely that you ‘settled’ for another specialty.

 

What are important aspects of a residency application for dermatology? Is it heavily research oriented?

– Research is critical (except for a few Dermatology programs, most are academically-driven and require residents to publish annually). Many of the applicants I met on the interview trail took a year off to do research. However, a dedicated research year is not critical – instead, focus on getting 2-3 FIRST author PMID (PubMed Indexed) publications by the time ERAS is ‘due’ (typically ~ September 15)

– First authorship holds much more weight – keep in mind papers can come in a variety of flavors: case-reports, case-series, CME quizzes, and review articles.

– By taking command of your publications, this will serve you well during the interview – you may be interviewing with a faculty member who is an ‘expert’ in the topic of your research or publication(s).

 

Any residency interview tips specific to dermatology that you wish someone told you before you hit the interview trail?

(i) Please do not discount the value and importance of PCs! I believe that Kaiser-Los Angeles Dermatology granted me an interview because I was professional and courteous when communicating with the PC.

(ii) Compile a list of programs that you would like to receive an interview – construct a personalized letter of interest to each program – outline the reasons why that program is attractive (besides being Dermatology!) – email the letter to the PC in late September so it can be added to your file for review.

(iii) Pay attention to your speaking volume and level of engagement during the pre-interview dinner and interview day – I lived by this saying ‘loose lips sink ships.’

(iv) If you are placed on the wait-list, email the PC and ask when the interview(s) are held? – Three weeks before the interview date(s), send the PC an email reminding him/her of your interest and provide application updates, if applicable.

(v) Avoid emailing or calling the PC with general questions about the program – study and thoroughly comb through the program websites.

(vi) Only reserve emails when you have SIGNIFICANT application updates – for example, I was asked to give an oral presentation at the 2018 American Academy of Dermatology (AAD) Annual Meeting [https://www.aad.org/scientificsessions/am2018/SessionDetails.aspx?id=11492] after I certified my ERAS – after updating my programs of interest, I received an interview invite from one program several hours later.

(vii) After the interview, prepare handwritten thank you cards for the PD and PC – note: in 2018, several programs explicitly stated NO thank you cards.

(viii) Prepare written templates for the following scenarios: (a) requesting letter of recommendations (b) accepting interview invites (because rarely do Dermatology applicants reject interview invitations) (c) letter of interest – tailored to specific programs (d) post-interview thank you card (e) top choice/you are my number one letter. I have templates (Dermatology-specific) for all these scenarios – please contact me directly if you wish to see my templates.

(ix) Avoid post-interview communication with the PD, PC, and residents – unless it is for SIGNIFICANT application updates – also, no harm in sending your number one a letter of intent several weeks before the rank list is due – note: in 2018, several programs explicitly said no post-interview communications.

 

Here are some facts for you and my followers. In 2016, based on NRMP match rate data, dermatology was the 5th most difficult specialty to match into behind only neurosurgery, orthopedic surgery, plastic surgery, and vascular surgery. Likewise in 2016, dermatology was among the six specialties with the highest average USMLE step 1 score for applicants who matched into their preferred specialty along with neurosurgery, orthopedic surgery, otolaryngology, plastic surgery, and radiation oncology. That average USMLE step 1 score was 250. Although I believe that high board scores shouldn’t be the only important aspect of a medical student’s residency application, it is hard to argue with objective data in that if you want to match into a highly competitive residency like dermatology you need to ace your boards. What advice do you have for medical students who want to pursue dermatology but don’t have those ultra-competitive board scores?

I scored a 238 on my USMLE Step 1 (please keep in mind that I took my Step 1 in 2011 – the passing score changed several years later). Regardless, 238 is not a strong score for Dermatology. If you scored <240 on USMLE Step 1, focus on the modifiable aspects of your application – (i) research – aim for 3 to 4 first author publications (ii) mentorship – seek out mentors as soon as possible so you have time to develop a relationship with them – this will lead to STRONG letters of recommendation (iii) research year – consider a research year (between MS III/IV) – I highly recommend the Northwestern Dermatology Pre-Doctoral Fellowship (iv) I cannot stress this enough – if you want to pursue Dermatology, remain focused on the modifiable aspects of your CV!

 

How did you find and develop a relationship with a mentor in dermatology?

My Ph.D. was on neutrophil biology in sepsis. Naturally, I asked myself the question “which skin conditions are driven by neutrophil dysfunction?” I found out that several neutrophil-mediated skin diseases fall under the spectrum of diseases commonly known as ‘neutrophilic dermatoses (ND).” As a fourth-year medical student, I reached out to Drs. Misha Rosenbach and Robert Micheletti from the University of Pennsylvania Dermatology (they are both Dermatology Hospitalists and have research interests in ND) – I contacted them and expressed my interest in Dermatology and ‘expertise’ in neutrophil biology. At that time, they happened to be in the process of spearheading a retrospective chart review of patients admitted with Sweet’s syndrome! Long story short, I completed two months of research with them, and they became my mentors through this process. Although I was not a University of Pennsylvania medical student, Dr. Micheletti supported my Dermatology Residency Application all three times – Dr. Micheletti emailed me on Match Monday, one hour after NRMP released the much anticipated “Did I Match?” email, and asked how I am doing and if I matched. Mentors do not have to be from your home institution. The mentor-mentee relationship takes work – take these relationships seriously but also show your ‘humanistic side’ or ‘brand of personality’ when appropriate. Remember, there are MANY ways to find and develop a relationship with a mentor – this is just one example of how I did it.

 

What is the biggest misconception about the field of dermatology?

The biggest misconception about Dermatology is that it is an ‘isolated’ specialty – like I mentioned before, Dermatology overlaps with many, if not all, of the Internal Medicine subspecialties – think: systemic lupus erythematosus (Rheumatology), HIV-associated dermatoses (Infectious Disease), systemic sclerosis (Rheumatology, Nephrology, Gastrointestinal, Pulmonology). There is significant overlap between all of the previously mentioned specialties – we see more multidisciplinary clinics, such as Rheumatology-Dermatology, for connective tissue disease patients with skin manifestations. Again, you do not need to limit your manuscript submissions to Dermatology journals – many internal diseases present on the skin – for instance, a CME quiz or review paper on atypical presentations of sarcoidosis can be submitted to a Pulmonology journal.

 

What are the strangest, most bizarre, or most unique questions you’ve been asked after people find out that you’re going into dermatology?

What people commonly say when they find out I am a Dermatology Resident is “oh, that is why you have such nice skin.” The most common question is “what should I do about X, Y, and Z (insert common COSMETIC complaints here) – because of this, I tell new people I meet that I am a Medicine Resident ☺. Also, my phone will occasionally receive pictures of rashes and bumps from my friends – I usually respond with “not interested” haha, just kidding! All jokes aside, I enjoy the question “why Dermatology?” – this question reminds me of the reasons why I chose to pursue Dermatology – and I take this opportunity to educate the public that Dermatologists are not merely ‘pimple-poppers, cyst-removers, and soft tissue injectors.’

 

Okay, so now the question that I’m sure you must be asked non-stop: what’s your skincare regimen?

Well, I do have pretty fabulous skin… ☺ haha. Disclaimer: ‘healthy’ skin is heavily driven by his/her genetic makeup – but evidence-based medicine suggests that sun protection and intact skin barrier are critical for optimal skin health. And of course you should not use this as medical advice. If you have skin questions or concerns you should always seek out an expert consultation with a dermatologist. This is my skin care routine:

 

Morning

In the shower: limit shower time to <10 min and use lukewarm, NOT HOT, water.

(a) Panoxyl 10% benzoyl peroxide (BPO) face and body wash – apply wash to my face only – prevents acne breakouts – has antibacterial and anti-inflammatory properties (BPO will whiten colored clothing so make sure you thoroughly rinse off the BPO, especially if you use colored towels).

(b) Cetaphil Gentle Cleansing Bar Soap.

 

Post-shower

If you are prone to eczema or dry skin – use towel to damp dry – followed by emollient (cream-based, not lotion) application – emollient will ‘lock-in’ moisture.

Cetaphil Men’s Daily Facial Moisturizer SPF 15 – quick word about SPF – unless you have a genetic skin disease (i.e. Gorlin’s syndrome) – no need for SPF>30 – SPF and percentage of UV blocked employs a base-10 logarithmic scale – this means that an SPF of 10 blocks out 90% of UV, SPF 15 blocks out 93.3% of UV and so forth – the percentage of UV blockage basically levels off above SPF 30 – save your money and spend it on an excellent emollient, instead – see below.

Cetaphil or CeraVe Moisturizing Cream (from tub NOT pump or squeeze bottle) – I use this to prevent moisture loss and to maintain an intact skin barrier – this is especially important for long hours in the hospital (definitely experienced this as a Preliminary-Medicine intern) – apply liberally to arms and legs.

 

Evening

Same as morning routine (BPO face wash) with the addition of topical retinoids – retinoids such as adapalene 0.1 or 0.3%. Retinoids are indicated for acne and pre-cancerous skin lesions, but they have also demonstrated repeatedly in several controlled studies to improve fine wrinkling, increase dermal collagen synthesis, and lighten uneven pigmentation – because of these reasons, I use adapalene 0.3% nightly – if your insurance does not cover retinoids (tretinoin, adapalene) it can be purchased over-the-counter under the brand name Differin (adapalene).

 

Things to avoid

Alcohol-based products (dries skin) and anything scented.

 


Benny Wu was born in Taipei, Taiwan and immigrated to the United States (Cupertino, California) when he was 10 years-old. Before medical school, he was a figure skater for thirteen years – competing on the national and international level. He graduated from the University of California at Irvine (Irvine, California) the same year he decided to end his competitive skating career. Before attending Rowan University School of Osteopathic Medicine, Bennybecame interested in medical research while he earned a Master’s of Biomedical Sciences from the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey. This led him to enroll in the combined D.O./Ph.D. program at Rowan University in 2009. Upon graduation from Rowan University in 2016, Bennycompleted an intense but rewarding Medicine-Preliminary internship year at Drexel/Hahnemann University Hospital in the ‘City of Brotherly Love’ (Philadelphia, PA). After his internship year, Benny fully immersed him in Dermatology clinical research by completing a Dermatology Clinical Research Fellowship at Northwestern University, Feinberg School of Medicine. Besides immunodermatology and translational research, he is passionate about mentoring medical students serious about pursuing Dermatology. Outside of Dermatology, Benny enjoys cycling, completing workouts that incorporate stability, endurance, strength, and athletic power, cooking, baking, and traveling. His next dream vacation spot is South Africa (cage dive with Great Whites). To learn more about Benny including his winding path to a dermatology residency you can follow him on Instagram at dermination_sk8r.

 


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What Happens When You Don’t Match Into Residency…Twice

Two years ago I interviewed a fellow Caribbean medical graduate. I interviewed him because of his failure. Specifically his failure to match into residency. I wanted to shed light on what the medical education community seems to shun and ignore- what happens after you fail to match into residency. Last year we were both hopeful that we would be able to share a comforting update on his path toward residency. His story was seemingly not yet ready to be told because for the second year in a row he heartbreakingly failed to match into a residency position. However, as the old adage goes, third times the charm.

 

 

It’s been two years since I interviewed you the first time. Back then you were recoiling from not matching into residency. Then you went through the match for a second time. What did you do during that first year after not matching your first time?

Hi Marc, it’s been quite some time and I’m happy to be back talking with you and answering your questions. After the first time of not matching, I began the process of getting my MBA in Health Services Management, studied for Step 3, and worked part-time for Ross University as a standardized patient. I also shadowed one of the pediatricians I worked with to keep my clinical skills fresh as she saw both adults and children.

 

 

How did you deal with the emotions of not matching for a second time?

To be quite honest, at first, I didn’t deal with the emotions. I was rather numb for a while and chose to ignore the feelings. But I started to really develop that anger more than I felt the depression stage of grief (Kubler-Ross knew what she was talking about). I had a hard time accepting the fact I did not match, considering what a program director told me, in which they implied that I was going to match at that program. I felt betrayed and became distrustful in the whole process.

 

 

What strategies did you change the second time around? Different specialties? How many interviews did you get the second time? Why don’t you think you matched the second time? 

I applied strictly to Family Medicine, which I definitely felt comfortable doing and I had wanted to really do it after attending the AAFP National Conference in July 2016. I met a lot of people and had some meaningful conversations with program directors. However, with all that said, I only had two interviews. It wasn’t that I was a repeat applicant that held me back, but it was the fact that I was never able to obtain a letter of recommendation from a board-certified Family Medicine physician. I do not believe that it was my interviews that did me in, but simply the numbers were against me.

 

 

So it’s your second match day and you find out you didn’t match, again. Take me through that week for you. 

It was a dark week. No…a dark couple of weeks. I was teaching our Ambulatory Care Competencies elective, which prepare MS-IV’s for Step 2 CS. We had finished around 10:45 AM and as I was walking to my car, I get the e-mail AGAIN that states “You did not match.” Again, there was no “oh hey girl” or “what’s going on” or anything like that. Just a simple “You did not match.” I immediately drove back to our school’s campus and got to work on SOAP. I actually had a phone interview at a university-based internal medicine program for a categorical position, which did not happen the year before. I spoke with three people and I naively felt very optimistic, thinking I was going to get the position. Well, the rounds of offers went by and there was nothing. It was very difficult to show up to work on Tuesday being surrounded by people who were celebrating having matched. In no way, shape, or form was I jealous or bitter. I knew that all of our journeys were our own and our applications were all different. However, it was just a little tough to be happy around them because I wanted to know what that feeling was like, so I took a break from social media. When I did that, the outpouring of support via text and email came from my former classmates and colleagues. So many people voluntarily reached out to me offering positive thoughts and were willing to put in good words for me for the next process. These people knew my work ethic and personality and were willing to put their reputation on the line by recommending me. That was a huge motivation for me to keep going and to get back on the horse again.

 

 

What did you do for the year after your second time not matching? Where did you work? 

I managed to get a full-time position with Ross University teaching for their Internal Medicine Foundations clerkship. However, I wasn’t even on their radar! According to the requirements, I was too far removed from graduation to be hired but they took me on the team on a per diem basis, if you will. I was working 40 hours a week, but just for the six-week clerkship. Unfortunately for one of the hires, he was unable to take the position and I had proven myself worthy of the position. They liked my teaching and mentoring style so much that they ended up offering me a full-time job and eventually, I became the Chief Clinical Teaching Fellow. I went from not even being considered for the team to becoming the team captain, which gave me the confidence going forward in the application process and it was something that I spoke about in my interviews.

 

 

Fast forward to your third time going through the match. You finally get a categorical position in internal medicine. What do you think was different this time around?

Well, my MBA was finished (and I graduated with highest honors) and my Step 3 score was in. I had taken Step 3 in January 2017, hoping to have it in time for the rank order list that was due in February 2017. Of course, I was part of the group of exams that wouldn’t get their score until May. May 2017 rolled around, and I passed so this showed that I am in good standing to eventually pass the boards, whether I ended up in Internal Medicine or Family Medicine. I also finally got that FM board-certified LOR for my application, which was a bonus since the writer is also a program director. Also, I was working on getting published in a medical textbook.

I knew that it was going to be very difficult to get residency interviews on my own, so I had to reach out to as many people as I could that were in residency programs. I asked people to talk about my character and work ethic. I looked at as many Family Medicine programs as I could and saw what scores they were looking for and narrowed Internal Medicine programs to the east coast and Chicago. Overall, I applied to 260+ programs. To my surprise, within the first week, I had my first interview offer and within four weeks of applying, I had four interviews lined up. I also constantly checked for new programs that were opening up and applied to those, which gave me some additional interviews. Overall, I had 3 IM interviews and 5 FM interviews (one of them was an interview I had last year, for which I was really grateful). Some of the interviews were from the help of people in the program, but that’s the main help I received. It helped me get my foot in the door, but I had to impress in the interviews. I did not take that help for granted and realized that I was not only representing me, but I was also representing them.

 

 

Do you know a lot of other students who didn’t match? What about people like you who didn’t match multiple times? What do people do who don’t match for a third time? What would you have done?

I have heard of a handful of students who matched after a third or fourth attempt. After I matched, I posted my story on Facebook and I got a huge number of messages with people asking for ideas on how to help them match and the best I could do was help brainstorm. Everyone’s application is different and since I don’t know what’s on their application or record, I could only speak on what I ended up doing.

To be quite honest, I don’t know what I would have done if I hadn’t matched a third time. I have been living in Florida already for my rotations and one thing that I was considering was applying for my ACN (Area of Critical Need) license. Since I had passed all the Step exams, I would’ve been able to practice medicine under the license of another primary care physician.

 

What general advise do you have for pre-med students researching Caribbean medical schools with regard to match rates? Did your medical school have resources available to you after you didn’t match?

Match rates are definitely useful, but you have to take them with a grain of salt, as you do with the match residency placements. Sure, Ross has matched at Yale and Duke, but you have to realize they are a rarity and have worked with the right people to earn that opportunity. However, use that as motivation to push yourself further to get that opportunity. Also, be aware of the school’s data. Take a look at what year the data came from because it may be slightly outdated. Take a look at where the graduates are able to practice. Even if you transfer into a “Big Four” (I guess Big Five school with AUA) medical school for your rotations, where you did your basic sciences will limit where you can obtain licensure so keep that in mind before you go to a cheaper Caribbean medical school. The extra cost is completely worth it.

 

 

What advise do you have for medical students who don’t match? What about if they don’t match twice?

Excellent question, Marc. Simply do not give up. It’s not a matter of if you will match, but rather WHEN you will match. Do not be afraid to reach out to colleagues who are in residency programs. I was hesitant at first because I wanted to earn it on my own merit, but if other industries interview people based on reference from those within the company, why can’t we do it in medicine? I know many people who got residencies because their parents knew people. My parents are not physicians. No one in my family is a physician. However, my friends from medical school could vouch for me, which in my opinion, carries more weight as there is no obligation to push for me.

Also, take Step 3!!!! You might as well get it out of the way, especially if you have lower scores like me, a failed attempt, or need a visa for residency. It can definitely open doors because every single interview mentioned that they were glad I had Step 3 done. One PD told me that it was a deciding factor in my application. In the words of Larry the Cable Guy, GIT ‘ER DONE.


To see our original interview after Steven’s first failed match check it out here- what happens when you don’t match.

Thank you again Steven for being so open and honest about your success and failures. I wish you only the best during residency and beyond.

 

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When You Should Take USMLE Step 3

I’m about to finish my first year of residency. Although I might not be ready to be a resident I sure as hell am ready to not be an intern anymore. Intern year of residency is exhausting. There’s no way around it. And studying for yet another seemingly pointless USMLE is the last thing anyone wants to do after a long day in the hospital.  Here are some tips to help you figure out when you should take USMLE step 3:

 

Does step 3 even matter?

Yes and no. It truly depends on what you plan on doing with your medical degree. If you don’t plan on specializing it is hard for me to see how your step 3 score will impact your ability to get a job. Especially when you have to pass a board certification exam in your respective field in order to practice.

But if you are looking to pursue a fellowship then you might not want to ‘just pass’. The 2016 NRMP program director (PD) survey asked fellowship PD’s the importance of various factors when looking at applicants. They rated importance of each factor from 1-5 with 5 being very important. Let’s take a look at a graph from the 2016 NRMP PD survey that shows which factors PD’s across every specialty found to be the most important when selecting applicants to interview:

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And now which factors were most  important in ranking applicants:

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Ultimately, step 3 isn’t the most important factor. But it is still a factor. Additionally, each specialty is different. A vascular surgery fellowship program is clearly looking for something different than what a sleep medicine fellowship program is looking for (take a look at the data yourself if you know what fellowship you’re interested in: Results of the 2016 NRMP Program Director Survey). But in general, there are more important things than step 3 when it comes to fellowships. I would err on the side of caution however and make sure it isn’t important. Meaning, don’t score so poorly that they end up looking at your score and make it a big deal. Let it be just another check mark on your application. Something to keep you on par with other applicants.

 

 

What is your specialty?

Generally speaking, USMLE step 3 is skewed in favor of primary care fields like internal medicine and family medicine. The majority of the test is composed of medicine topics. So medicine residents see a lot of what is on the test in everyday practice. This means that medicine residents can probably wait until the end of intern year and study intensely for 2 months or so and take it and pass. Essentially, waiting till the end of intern year won’t hurt you much. However, for anyone going into specialties like pediatrics, psychiatry, OB/GYN, or surgery I suggest you take it as soon as humanly possible. Some of my colleagues from medical school even took it the first month of residency. Their program even gave them a month of ‘research’ to study for it. So for anyone not going into a primary field like internal or family medicine you should, for the most part, take it as soon as possible.

 

 

Should you take step 3 before before residency starts?

Depends on a few factors. First off, can you afford it? Step 3 costs $875. Second, you need to graduate prior to even applying to take USMLE step 3². So unless you graduate early and have a considerable amount of time prior to starting residency I wouldn’t even put the thought in your head. Trust me, during residency the last thing you are going to be thinking is ‘I wish I studied more before residency started’. But what you do prior to starting residency is up to you. So unless you are required to take step 3 prior to starting residency I would hold off on taking it until during residency.

 

 

What does your intern year schedule look like?

For the most part you only need 2 months or so to study for this exam. So find a period in your schedule when you are on a lighter service. For me that was in December right before Christmas when I had a week of clinic followed by a week of vacation and three weeks of elective followed by another week of clinic and a notoriously light general medicine service. So I had ample time to study. Find a time in your schedule that will allow you about two months of time to study.

 

 

How should you study for USMLE step 3?

That’s an entire blog post in and of itself. Keep on the look out and subscribe so you don’t miss it!

 

 

What other questions or concerns do you have about taking USMLE step 3? Comment below!

 

 

 

1-  (2017). Nrmp.org. Retrieved 23 May 2017, from http://www.nrmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/2016-PD-Survey-Report-SMS.pdf

2- Federation of State Medical Boards. (2017). Fsmb.org. Retrieved 24 May 2017, from http://www.fsmb.org/licensure/usmle-step-3/faq#g1

The Most Frequently Asked Questions on Residency Interviews…by Medical Students

It’s my first interview season as a resident and I am loving the free lunches. Uh, I mean…meeting all of the applicants. It’s kind of strange being on the other side of things because I remember asking the exact same annoying inquisitive questions that all of you are asking. However, I’m realizing most of my answers are not specific to my program and I end up giving general residency advice like how to survive your intern year and how to create your residency rank list. Here’s what I tell the prospective fourth years:

 

 

What’s your favorite part of your residency program

My co-residents. It’s annoyingly corny but true. This is a highly sensitive test for weeding out unhappy residency programs. Residency sucks but you should at least be able to get along with the people you are stuck in residency with because the only thing worse than going through residency is going through residency alone.

 

 

If you could change one thing about your program what would it be?

Daily free lunches, a personal assistant, and a raise would be nice. Otherwise, well…every residency program has there bugs but the tell of a good program is that the administration will listen to their residents and make appropriate changes. A better question to ask is ‘what are the most recent changes that were made to your program based on complaints or concerns raised by residents’. Ask that. You’ll look like, really smart.

 

 

Why did you choose this program?

It was a gut feeling. Every program I interviewed at had essentially the same things. Maybe some had more or less research, was in a bigger or smaller city, had a bigger or smaller residency class size, or had varying degrees of fellowship opportunities. But you will likely be a successful doctor wherever you end up. The question you have to ask yourself is ‘will I be happy in this city at this hospital if I match here’. And the answer to that question depends a lot on you (and your family’s) priorities.

 

 

What stood out about your top choice residency programs compared to the rest on your list?

The program director’s leadership and enthusiasm when meeting us (despite likely giving the same speech and presentation hundreds of times before), the impressive amount of teaching that occurs during morning report (yes, it’s like this every morning), and my interactions with the other applicants and residents . Again, these residents and fellow applicants are the people you’re going to be stuck with for the next three years. If you can’t enjoy an afternoon with these people then that residency program likely isn’t a great fit for you. My favorite interview days were ones with the best lunches. And also when I got along well with the other residents and applicants. But also lunch.

 

 

So lunch is really important to you, huh?

It’s all about the little things. When a program would take us to their cafeteria for lunch it made me feel like they weren’t even trying to impress us. Sure, maybe they have an amazing cafeteria and all of the residents eat there everyday. Except it ends up coming across like a cheap date who forgot their wallet at home. It would never be a reason to rank a program higher or lower but it consistently served as a surrogate marker for other things that may be awry. Like someone who wears ankle socks with dress pants. Judged.

 

 

So you get along well with your residency class?

I enjoy hanging out and working with most of my co-interns and residents. You find your people early on and you go through hell with one another. Working on the same floor together for a month builds some pretty strong bonds. Especially if chased with tequila. Just recognize you aren’t going to get along with everybody and that’s okay. Hopefully the bell-curve is skewed towards positivity and most attendings, fellows, and residents there aren’t jerks. Again, big red flag if lots of people within the residency program don’t like one another.

 

 

Are you involved in any research at the moment?

I’m currently four months into residency. I finally have my feet underneath me and I can navigate the hospital system pretty well. Don’t get me wrong, I’m still a bumbling intern but I am more efficient bumbling intern compared to July 1st. I now feel comfortable pursuing research projects and am currently getting involved in a QI project. However, I’m waiting to take step 3 before I jump into some bench research going on in my hospital. Just beware, the only thing worse than not performing any research is getting involved in research and dropping out because you weren’t available or weren’t interested. It’s unprofessional, word will spread, and people will be less willing to offer you future research opportunities.

 

 

When are you taking step 3?

ASAP! More specifically the middle of December. Many of my friends in OB/GYN and pediatrics have already taken and passed step 3. Internal medicine constitutes a large proportion of the exam so there isn’t a huge rush for IM residents to take step 3 because you’re going to learn the majority of what’s on the exam during your training anyway. However, non-medicine residents are often advised to take the exam as soon as possible so they can get it out of the way. Personally, I’m taking a middle ground approach and will be taking it six months into my residency. It really depends on your schedule. Mine is lighter early on so I have time to finish UWorld (yes, it is the only resource I am using. Will confirm that it was a good decision once I pass). Getting step 3 out of the way also let’s you finally focus on the more important things in residency. Like research and not killing your patients.

 

 

Should I take step 3 before starting residency?

Only if you have an insane amount of time prior to residency. Otherwise, go enjoy your life and follow up on my next blog post about what to do the summer before residency! You can also check out my two blog posts on this exact subject:

What happens when you don’t match

What happens to medical students who don’t match? Here’s what one unmatched psychiatry applicant had to say.

 

Thanks for letting me interview you Steven. You have a pretty unique story that my readers would love to hear about but before we delve in can you tell us a little bit about yourself? Who are you professionally? Did you go straight from undergrad to Ross? Who are you outside of the hospital?

My pleasure, Marc. I appreciate the opportunity to share my story as I feel people can learn from any experience in this process, both good and bad. I graduated from NYU in 2010 with a Bachelor of Arts in Mathematics. After graduation, I had about six months before starting with Ross University’s MERP (Medical Education Review Program) and I knew I needed to make money. So I took a job that any medical school bound person takes – working in the jewelry and diamond industry. I did mostly bookkeeping but I also prepared orders for a wholesale company that dealt with Macy’s, JcPenney, Sears, HSN, QVC, etc. It taught me a lot about dealing with large staffs and it was a nice break away from the science and math world I had spent so much time with in undergrad.

Professionally, I’m the one making jokes in the office but I focus on the patient when I’m in the room. I like to be a reason people enjoy coming to work, because they know it’ll be fun and productive. On the same token, I’m also someone who isn’t afraid to call someone out for their BS because I expect someone to do the same to me if I ever act out of line. I also am one of the first people to teach someone how things run in the office, how to order labs, do procedures, etc. Not only do people feel comfortable if it’s a peer teaching them but it helps me better my skills as well.

 

 

What specialties did you apply for? How many programs in each specialty? What was your reasoning for that number of programs?

I applied to psychiatry, internal medicine, and internal medicine-psychiatry combined. For psychiatry, I applied to 76 programs. For internal medicine, I applied to 10. And for IM-psych, I applied to all 9 programs in the country. My step scores weren’t that competitive and there are only 196 psychiatry programs in the country. I went through each program on FREIDA and checked to see if I matched their step requirements. If I did, I tried to see who the residents were. If there were zero or one Caribbean grad in all the PGY positions, then I didn’t apply as I felt that that one particular Caribbean grad may have had a connection there or had stellar scores. Plus, why would I spend money on programs that were going to outright reject me?

For IM, I applied to where I had rotated and since I could apply up to 10 for one fee, I applied to some hospitals in the NY/NJ area (which is where I’m from). And for IM-psych programs, there were only 9 so it made the most sense to apply to all of them.

 

 

How many interviews did you end up receiving? How did you feel your chances were at matching?

Formally, I received three interviews, but in total, I ranked four positions. I received 2 for psychiatry and I was taken off the waitlist for 1 IM-psych program. All of them were university-based programs. At the IM-psych program, I had mentioned that I had also applied for a psychiatry categorical position at the same place and I wanted to know if I had to come back for another interview, which I was totally willing to do. Ten minutes after that mini-interview, I had an impromptu meeting with the program director of psychiatry and she told me that she will see what the other four interviewers had to say about me from that day and she would let me know if I needed to come back or not. Two weeks later, I’m notified that she had enough to consider me for a position. Throughout the next two months prior to match day, I had received several emails about how the psychiatry program is expanding and there’s new facilities and all these wonderful things. I didn’t think I was a shoo-in but I felt that maybe I had a great shot.

 

 

So, it’s Monday, March 14th. The day applicants find out if they matched. You open the e-mail and find out that you did not obtain a residency. What’s going through your head?

Before that day, I told myself whatever happens, happens. I actually slept well the night before! I was driving in Fort Lauderdale and taking care of some errands and I happened to look at my phone. For five seconds, I was completely numb. And then it hit me. My biggest fear came true. All that work, all that money, all the stress, and for what? Nothing.

*cue Kim Kardashian ugly crying*

I can honestly say that it is one of the most devastating experiences and I would not even wish it upon an enemy. The e-mail just says “you did not match”. Not even a “good morning” or “hey girl!” Just one line that says you’re not good enough to continue in your career. After quickly doing my errands and a few snot-filled tissues later, I sped home passing several cops on the way and began on SOAP.

Most of us aren’t familiar with the SOAP, or the Supplemental Offer & Acceptance Program. Can you walk us through your experience with it? (Here’s a link to the SOAP schedule for my readers)

SOAP is a chance for unmatched applicants to apply to unfilled spots in all fields of medicine. However, this means that you will have to come up with new personal statements in the matter of hours, which is exactly what I had to do for family medicine. As Markus said in a previous posting, the website was down and no one could send in applications (because like LOL, heaven forbid the ERAS website works when it needs to).

I spoke with a friend who match into IM the year before through SOAP and she guided me through the process while she was at work. She told me to apply to the IM prelim, IM categorical, and family med programs that had the MOST open spots. I had only 45 spots to pick from and I used 5 of them on psychiatry programs that were unfilled. Then I went through family medicine and internal medicine. In retrospect, I could’ve used those 5 on family medicine or IM spots but what’s done is done.

 

 

So on Monday you found out that you didn’t match. Then during the week you went through the SOAP.  Friday comes along and you find out that you didn’t SOAP into a residency. How did that feel?

By that point, I had already gone through the five stages of grief. Denial set in when I was in the car. Then anger when I was cursing at anyone on the road that was slowing me down from getting home (which is what I do on a regular basis and I’ve been trying to work on but YOU try driving on I-95 in Fort Lauderdale and Miami and tell me you don’t have road rage, but I digress…). Bargaining was SOAP. Depression set in when the 5th round of SOAP happened and I hadn’t received any offers. It continued for a week when all I saw on Facebook were my friends posting that they matched at their number one or number two choices. It wasn’t that I wasn’t happy for them. Every single one of us had a unique journey and even the people I didn’t like, I respected them enough in a professional sense to be proud that they get to continue their journey. It was more about the fact that I didn’t get to continue my journey with them.

Several months had passed and I hadn’t reached the acceptance stage of grief. It wasn’t until I went to the AAFP National Conference in Kansas City at the end of July that I had realized that I had been in the wrong field all this time. I realized within the first hour of the conference that I had such a wrong idea as to what family medicine and primary care entailed. There are so many opportunities for me as a family medicine doctor, whether it be to provide medical care for a whole family, work as a hospitalist, deal with mental health issues, or even perform procedures. After I didn’t match, I had told myself that something big was in store for me, and I finally believed it. Networking at the expo hall with the residency programs made me realize that I was a perfect fit for family medicine and that there are programs out there that WANT me. As I’m writing this, I can definitely say that I wasn’t supposed to match into psychiatry because I realized that I was meant to match into family medicine (I’m hoping). It feels good to be in that acceptance part of grief!

 

 

Why do you think you didn’t match? What were your step scores? Was your application particularly weak in any one specific area?

I had thought about not giving exact numbers here, but in all honesty, who cares? Step 1 was a 208, and step 2 CK was a 209 (yes, the EXACT passing score). Step 2 CS was a pass and everything was on the first try. I expected my Step 1 score but my CK was an absolute miracle. I had worked harder for CK than I did for step 1 and yet, I was not getting anywhere with my studying. I took a UWorld assessment two days before just to get more questions in and I had about 179. So in two days, my score JUMPED 30 points. (This is NOT a plan I recommend to ANYONE, by the way.) I know I’m a terrible test taker and that in rotations, I shined and my letters of recommendation reflected that.

In addition, I had failed one course in basic sciences, and THAT was a reason why a program didn’t take me. They were too worried that I may not pass step 3 (which I’ll go into below) and therefore, not be able to be licensed. However, my scores were good enough to get some interviews at university programs so I must have done SOMETHING right.

 

 

Do you think the fact that you attended a Caribbean medical school played a factor?

Not at all. The places I had interviewed at were very IMG friendly, as were the residencies I spoke with at the AAFP National Conference.

 

 

What do you plan to do while you wait to apply for the 2017 match?

I am currently a Clinical Teaching Fellow for Ross University. Some of my colleagues know it as “junior faculty” but teaching fellow is the formal title and you better believe I am using that on my CV. For those who don’t know what that is, my role is to act as a standardized patient for the incoming 3rd year medical students and assist other junior faculty in teaching how to handle difficult patients and certain common primary care cases, as well as how to begin to formulate an efficient style of medical interviewing. I also assist in Ross’s Ambulatory Care Competencies elective, where we prep the 4th year students for Step 2 CS by presenting cases and critiquing their notes.

Outside of Ross University, I tutor for Huntington Learning Center (which I have been doing since 4th year of med school), where I mostly do SAT/ACT math and high school subject tutoring in math as well. In addition, I’m getting my MBA in Health Services Management through Keller Graduate School of Management, which is one of the sister schools of Ross University. What’s great about that is that they have an “MD to MBA” program where I was able to get credit for 5 out of the 16 courses, so now I only need to complete 11 of them. In addition to working, I plan on taking Step 3 by the end of October. Needless to say, I only know one speed and it is full speed ahead.

 

 

How are you handling your loan debt?

Some of my loan debt could not be deferred or put into forbearance, so I have been paying that off. However, since starting grad school, I’ve been able to defer most of my loans while taking out more. Thanks, Uncle Sam!

 

 

What words of wisdom would you give to someone knowing what you know now?

Have plans A through Z ready to go from the jump. You don’t want to rely on them, but you want them ready if you have to execute them.

Go to as many networking conferences as you can. I know those things can cost money, but at the very least, go to the big ones run by the specialties to which you are applying.

But most importantly, it’s not a matter of “if” you become a resident, but rather it’s a matter of WHEN. 2016 was not my time and I realize that now. However, come 2017, I will be a better applicant and in a better frame of mind to continue on in the next chapter.

 

 

Thank you Steven for an informative and entertaining interview. I look forward to finding out where you match in 2017.

 

Next week I interview a Ross University graduate who matched into a categorical general surgery position. Be sure to subscribe to my blog, like me on Facebook, and follow me on Twitter so you don’t miss it!

Spotlight Interview: a family medicine resident who failed step 1

Emily Chan is a Ross University graduate who successfully matched into her top choice residency program. However, it wasn’t an easy route to residency. As a Canadian citizen she could only apply to programs that would sponsor her visa. Oh and she also failed USMLE step 1. Here’s her story.

As a close friend, I know you pretty well. Can you tell my followers a little bit about yourself? Who are you professionally? Who are you outside of the hospital?

I’m from the beautiful area of Niagara Falls, Canada. True to stereotype, I am polite, love maple syrup, and say “eh” often. I received my Bachelor’s in biomedical sciences at the University of Montréal – in French.

Professionally, I am a hard worker and a team player. I show up to the office or the hospital with a smile and do my best. People have described me as a problem solver because I will come up with quick solutions for anything.

Outside of the hospital, I indulge in my hobby of cooking and baking. Nothing makes me happier than sharing good homemade food with friends. I also attempt, with varying degrees of success, to justify my paid gym membership even though I hate working out.

You matched into your top choice family medicine program. That’s an amazing accomplishment. Why did you choose to apply to family medicine?

Thank you! It is the most amazing feeling. I knew since I was 12 years old that I wanted to be a family doc. I’ve always loved talking to people and listening to stories about themselves, their families, and their lives. I believe that every personality fits in a certain branch of medicine. How will you know? Trust me, you’ll just feel it, you’ll know. Family medicine was my perfect fit.

Where are you from originally? Did you want to match in the US or Canada? Did you experience any extra hardships trying to match in American programs as a Canadian?

As a Canadian, I knew the odds were not in my favour across the board. Many factors influenced my choice to not pursue a Canadian residency. Canada made it very difficult for me to apply (poor matching stats, inconvenient availability of mandatory tests, and difficulty to obtain Canadian electives). I felt that if my own country made it so challenging for me to come back, then I wasn’t going to put up a fight. Instead, I concentrated all my energy to match in the US. I am very glad my strategic gamble paid off. Yes, you face discrimination because as a resident you will require a visa. I was ineligible to apply to many programs because they did not want to deal with the headache of visas. Disappointing, sure, but I don’t blame them.

Speaking of hardships, I remember the day that we all received our step one scores. You and I, along with three close friends of ours, were living together in Florida. I remember the moment when you came downstairs from your room and told us what every medical student dreads to even think of. That you failed step one. What happened? Why do you think you failed? Were you doing poorly in school? Did it come as a shock to you?

Oh that dreadful day… It was awful! I was so glad to be surrounded by friends like you when I found out I failed. You all rallied around me in a big group hug and reassured me that everything was going to be ok.

Failing Step 1 was a huge blow and I did not expect it at all. Granted, I’m not the strongest student so by no means did I expect to have a stellar score. I just expected to pass. So when I learned I was a few points shy of passing, I was crushed. I had done fine in school up to that point. I never failed any tests on the island, never repeated a semester, and I even passed the comp on the first try. Everything suggested that I’d be fine.

In hindsight, I realized what I thought was enough preparation for the test ended up being insufficient. To tackle Step 1 a second time around, I had to prepare more than ever before.

What was step 2 CK like for you? What steps did you take to make sure you didn’t make the same mistakes again?

Step 2 CK was definitely better than Step 1. I will say, all the self-doubting and insecurities resurfaced when I was prepping for Step 2. I spent 6 months studying and even delayed my test till October – meaning I applied to match without a CK score. As anyone and everyone will tell you, it’s best to apply to match with a full and complete application but mine lacked the CK. It was a risk I was willing to take. I absolutely could not afford to fail a second USMLE exam. Aside from doubling the time I dedicated to study, I got weekly tutor help to go over questions on UWorld that I got wrong. I also made sure that I took plenty of practice tests.

How many programs did you end up applying to? How many categorical? How many preliminary? How many interviews did you end up going on?

I applied to every single FM program in the US for which I was qualified. All categorical, no prelim. I spent a little over $3,100 on my 140+ applications. In the end, I only had 2 interviews. Yes, you read that right, two interviews. One interview was where I did all my core rotations in 3rd year. I got the other interview because I clicked well with residents from that program while attending the AAFP National Conference. I knew from the get go that on paper I was less than stellar so I worked hard on networking. I attended family medicine residency fairs like it was going out of style. In 12 months, I attended 3 residency conferences.

What was match day like for you?

Every medical student will tell you that match day is a nerve-wracking day, and for me, it was no different. I was hoping to match but I also mentally prepared myself that there was a good chance I would not match. When I learned that I successfully matched, I cried tears of joy and relief. Knowing that I beat the odds was the most incredible feeling. It validated all the people along the way who believed in me and said I would make it. I now had proof that outside people (not just family and friends) believed I was worthy of pursuing this profession.

I know we’ve talked a lot about a major weakness in your application but what do you think were your greatest strengths about your application? What set you apart from the other applicants?

Academia has never been my forte. I knew clinical years were my time to shine. It’s what I do best; it’s where I feel most comfortable. I worked diligently and was rewarded with A’s in all my core and elective rotations, except surgery. I genuinely connected with my attendings and they wrote me beautiful letters of recommendation. My strong LORs were undoubtedly a key component to my match success. I’ve always been a people person so interviews came naturally to me. When applying to medical schools, I had 4 interviews and was accepted to all 4. I knew I had strong interview skills. I harnessed that same energy and left my 2 residency interviews feeling confident.

The fact that you failed step one, the proverbial kiss of death to any applicant’s dream of obtaining a residency, but still managed to match into your top choice family medicine program is quite an accomplishment. In closing, what advice would you give to a medical student who failed or didn’t do well on step one?

I want people reading this to say to themselves, if she can match her top choice in her dream specialty with a 203 Step 1 score, a 215 Step 2 score, and only 2 interviews, I can do it too. One failure does not define you. You will encounter people along the road who will encourage you to quit medicine (one of my Ross professors counseled me to pursue non medical careers) or take time off (I was strongly encouraged to delay my graduation date and my match by a year) or give up all together. Take all that advice as fuel to prove them wrong.

Thank you Emily for bravely sharing your inspirational story. You are proof that it is possible to fail USMLE step 1 and still earn a residency. I’m sure it was an emotionally tumultuous path and taught you a lot about yourself along the way.

UPDATE: Unfortunately due to the high volume of requests to speak with Dr. Chan I can no longer forward her private email. If you have questions for her please comment below. After sufficient questions have been posted we plan to release an updated blog post with the most frequently asked questions. Thank you for your understanding.

Spotlight Interview: matching in Canada from a Caribbean medical school

Dana is a Ross University School of Medicine graduate from Toronto. She went through both the US and Canadian matches and successfully matched into her top choice Canadian program. I interviewed Dana about her experience going through the match and the difficulties she encountered along the way. Here’s what she had to say:

 

Tell us a little bit about yourself. Who are you professionally? Who are you outside of the hospital?

If I could describe myself professionally I would use the words inquisitive and dedicated. For as long as I can remember I have had a constant need to know how and why things work the way they do (growing up this was often to the annoyance of my parents). I’ve always strived to excel in any position I hold so I believe my dedicated nature has really found its niche in medicine. Outside of the hospital, I would describe myself and adventurous and thoughtful. I love to travel, try new things and for the most part view the world as limitless. I also don’t make hasty decisions and I place significant value on the relationships in my life.

 

How many programs did you apply to? How many categorical? Prelim? How many in the United States? How many in Canada?

Originally I applied to approximately 100 IM categorical US programs. I did not apply to any back up programs or prelim spots, against my medical school’s advice. I spoke with other colleagues and was aware that they applied to 150-200 programs on average, but my plan was to stay in large cities or close to the Canadian border. After only receiving 4 interviews in the first 3 weeks I applied to the remaining 150 IM categorical programs available in the US (this was a humbling and expensive lesson). The Canadian match was a few months later and after my experience in the US I applied to every Canadian IM program, I believe there’s 7, as well as a dozen Family Medicine programs.

 

What as the most difficult part of applying to both the Canadian and the American match?

I think the most difficult part was that each system uses a completely different application. This meant that I couldn’t just use the same documents twice. I had to rewrite statements of interest and reformat resumes, which is an enormous task. The letters of recommendation could be the same but I had to bother my preceptors twice to use two different uploading systems.

 

Roughly, how does the Canadian match work? Can you end up with both a Canadian and an American residency?

Luckily CaRMs (Canadian Residency Matching Service) match date is about two weeks before the US match date. This is great since your chances of getting into a Canadian program are much poorer than a US program so ideally you would want to try this route first and use the US match as a backup if it doesn’t work out. If you match into CaRMs you are automatically withdrawn from the US match. You are also never able to find out how you were ranked in the US match.

 

How did you end up ranking your programs? Would you have rather gone to your least favorite Canadian program over your top American program?

It was a difficult choice deciding how to rank my programs since being close to home, Toronto, was important to me but also the quality of the program. In the end I ended up ranking my first choice US program as the one that I believed was the best place to be academically, which happened to be the second closest geographically to my home in Canada. When I submitted my rank list for CaRMs I reluctantly ranked a program that was across the country, but did so based solely on the fact it was in Canada. If I would have matched at this program I would have been automatically withdrawn from the US match, as I mentioned earlier, so I knew that would mean giving up my first choice US program. This was definitely the most difficult decision I had to make in all of my ranking.

 

How many interviews did you go on in the end? How many in the US? In Canada?

In the end I was invited to 7 interviews in the US and 2 interviews in Canada. Some of these interviews were in very undesirable locations for me, but I felt it was good practice to keep all my options open since I was not invited to a lot of interviews. In the end I ranked them all.

 

Any crazy stories from the interview trail?

At the end of one of my interviews I realized my middle button of my blouse was undone. No idea how long that was like that for.

 

What did you find to be the most frustrating part of the interview process?

The days were way more exhausting than I expected them to be. The travelling combined with the anxiety about the day really gets to you after a while. A couple of my interviews started at 7am for morning rounds and didn’t end until 3 or 4pm. These days were long enough without having to also roll out my charm for 8 hours straight.

 

Do you feel that coming from a Caribbean medical school hindered your chances to match back home in Canada?

Yes, but I don’t think my chances would have been any better coming from a US or European school. The Canadian match first and foremost ensures all of its Canadian graduates have a residency. There are designated spots for international medical graduates (IMG’s) in the CaRMs match, but they are very few for very many.

 

What do you think were your greatest strengths about your application? What set you apart from the other applicants?

I believe my work experience prior to Ross University was a strong point of my application; most programs asked about this during the interview process. I also made it a priority in my personal statement to express the hardships that came along with studying in a third world country and in constantly relocating during clinical years. In the end I believe that the impression I left on the staff during an elective rotation is what set me apart from the other applicants.

 

In contrast, what were your greatest weaknesses about your application?

A big weakness in my application was my USMLE Step 1 score. I was having personal troubles and knew going into the exam I was not as prepared as I should be. In hind sight I also wish I spent more time on my personal statement. I left it until the last minute and did not allow time to have people proof read it and critique it.

 

How did you do on the USMLE’s? What were your step scores? Do you think your step scores negatively/positively affected the number of interviews your received?

My USMLE Step 1 score was a full standard deviation below average, which I am disappointed with and believe negatively affected my interview invitations. I worked hard to redeem myself on USMLE Step 2 CK and scored 30 points higher, which I am very pleased with. On the Canadian version of the USMLE, the Medical Council of Canada Evaluation Examination (the MCCEE) I received two standard deviations above the average, which is the score I’m most proud of.

 

What advice would you give to other international medical graduates who want to pursue residency in Canada ?

I would tell other Canadians that if they want a residency in Canada to just try! I heard countless times along the way that it’s impossible as an IMG to get a residency in Canada. For this reason I was preparing the whole time to get rejected, but I worked really hard and was one of the lucky ones. If things would have gone the other way I was very excited for my US residency programs and looking forward to spending more time with our lovely neighbors to the south. Either way I would recommend that you keep all your options open; being an IMG does not mean you cannot have the residency you want.

 

Thank you Dana for sharing your experience with the Canadian and US match process. Going through the Electronic Residency Application Service (ERAS) was frustrating enough for me at times so I can only imagine what it was like to do it twice. I wish you the best during your internal medicine residency and hope to hear more from you soon.

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